[Bug 58661] New: Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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Bug ID: 58661
           Summary: Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work
                    correctly
           Product: Wine
           Version: 10.14
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

Created attachment 79240
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=79240
video of the problem

If I try to run a gui app in wine it completely breaks, black squares and the
window gets cloned sometimes

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #1 from Starman  ---
I uploaded the wrong file lol

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #2 from Starman  ---
Created attachment 79241
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=79241
video of the problem

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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Stian Low  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Stian Low  ---
Created attachment 79265
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=79265
Backtrace when closing discord

Confirming for 10.13 commit d74d97cbf87 using shared wow64.

Are there other "visual apps, specifically with .NET" that won't work correctly
for you or just this one?

To reproduce:
1.  Download and extract latest release of No Man's Sky save game editor:
https://github.com/zencq/NomNom/releases
2.  Fulfill missing dotnet8 components: winetricks dotnet8 dotnetdesktop8

Step 2 allows the NomNom.exe to run without the DOTNET_ROOT env explicitly used
in the video.

Could not reproduce window cloning bug but the black squares appear where menus
are supposed to be rendered.

Attached is a backtrace that happens when closing the child window that opens
when clicking the discord icon at the lower right corner of the screen.

The backtrace logs opengl and presentationframework.  Hovering over the blacked
out open menus causes some flashing as if the screen is refreshing in bugged
manner.  These graphical glitches may suggest rendering issues.

Not sure if this actually caused by .NET.  If you have other apps that behave
this way that are specifically .NET desktop please specify them.  Otherwise
.NET may just be a red herring.

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #4 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Stian Low from comment #3)
> Could not reproduce window cloning bug but the black squares appear where
> menus are supposed to be rendered.

Partially reproduced the window cloning using GE-Proton-10-15.

The menus also turn from black boxes to their normal rendering when hovering
the mouse over the items.

The window cloning may be related to emulate virtual desktop like features
which GE-Proton-10-15 seems to run by default.

The cloned window contained no title bar and was unresponsive.  The original
window remained functional but was always behind the cloned window so z order
broke.

Using winecfg -> Graphics -> Emulate a virtual desktop for vanilla wine 10.13
produced similar behavior but the discord button now crashes immediately upon
open rather than on close.  The menus also behaved similarly by changing from
black to rendering correctly as the mouse is hovered over the items.

Same behavior all the way back to GE-Proton-9-5 (wine-9.5).

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #5 from Starman  ---
Yes, ILSpy also does this

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #6 from Starman  ---
for some reason wine for me requires DOTNET_ROOT to be defined, probably
because I installed it on my machine

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #7 from Starman  ---
I think I was using deefault wine but I might have used proton, not sure, also
I'm using Fedora Workstation so I'm using wayland

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #8 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Starman from comment #7)
> I think I was using deefault wine but I might have used proton, not sure,
> also I'm using Fedora Workstation so I'm using wayland

Unless you are deliberately trying to use proton like me then you can safely
assume you are using default wine.

GE-Proton is what I use to help determine severity of bugs.  It's built with
different patches and dependencies so if broken behavior exists for it then it
often suggests to me something is more severely broken with wine vs less severe
issues like dependencies etc.  It's not a perfect comparison against vanilla
but saves me a lot of time troubleshooting bugs.

(In reply to Starman from comment #6)
> for some reason wine for me requires DOTNET_ROOT to be defined, probably
> because I installed it on my machine

If you didn't install it via winetricks like I did then it may indeed be why
DOTNET_ROOT is required.

winetricks installs an earlier version of dotnet8 than manually downloading but
it doesn't seem to matter for these bugs.

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #9 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Starman from comment #5)
> Yes, ILSpy also does this

Does ILSpy launch for you?

It crashes at launch for multiple wine releases including for latest build
(commit e6df334f178) for me

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #10 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Stian Low from comment #9)
> (In reply to Starman from comment #5)
> > Yes, ILSpy also does this
>
> Does ILSpy launch for you?
>
> It crashes at launch for multiple wine releases including for latest build
> (commit e6df334f178) for me

It may only be crashing for my setup:
01f4:err:module:find_forwarded_export module not found for forward
'icuuc68.u_charsToUChars_68' used by L"C:\windows\system32\icu.dll"

Seems this issue may need to be resolved for ILSpy to launch for my machine:
https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=39819

If you are  of any other .NET apps similarly broken please post them here.

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--- Comment #11 from Starman  ---
I just coppied icu and icuuc from official sources

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--- Comment #12 from Starman  ---
wait no it was a github repo specifically made because wine lacks icu

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #13 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Starman from comment #12)
> wait no it was a github repo specifically made because wine lacks icu

icu indeed is lacking for wine and this bug suggests adding it:
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53354

I thought winetricks would at least provide it but haven't found it yet.

Manually fixing for now.

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #14 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Stian Low from comment #13)
> (In reply to Starman from comment #12)
> > wait no it was a github repo specifically made because wine lacks icu
>
> icu indeed is lacking for wine and this bug suggests adding it:
> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53354
>
> I thought winetricks would at least provide it but haven't found it yet.
>
> Manually fixing for now.

icu.dll provided by: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53354#c6

ILSpy launches now but immediately crashes.

Maybe other dependencies are missing.

ILSpy may be better handled after NomNom.exe because it's so problematic to get
running vs NomNom.exe which reproduces the bug with minimal effort via
winetricks.

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #15 from Starman  ---
(In reply to Stian Low from comment #14)
> (In reply to Stian Low from comment #13)
> > (In reply to Starman from comment #12)
> > > wait no it was a github repo specifically made because wine lacks icu
> >
> > icu indeed is lacking for wine and this bug suggests adding it:
> > https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53354
> >
> > I thought winetricks would at least provide it but haven't found it yet.
> >
> > Manually fixing for now.
>
> icu.dll provided by: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53354#c6
>
> ILSpy launches now but immediately crashes.
>
> Maybe other dependencies are missing.
>
> ILSpy may be better handled after NomNom.exe because it's so problematic to
> get running vs NomNom.exe which reproduces the bug with minimal effort via
> winetricks.

I did something to make it work, I think I used proton for ILSpy, I also had
trouble running it

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--- Comment #16 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Starman from comment #15)
> I did something to make it work, I think I used proton for ILSpy, I also had
> trouble running it

Indeed you seem to be using proton like me to troubleshoot and workaround
vanilla bugs.

Confirming that icu.dll is indeed part of ge-proton packages which allows ILSpy
to launch.

GE-Proton also seems to include dotnet8 and dotnetdesktop8 as part of the sauce
so winetricks wasn't necessary for launch.

Confirming similar blacked-out rendering issues for ILSpy menus as for
NomNom.exe.

Because NomNom.exe is reproducible easily for vanilla wine it is still the best
app to use for resolving these bugs because ge-proton may cause confusion
during vanilla fixes.

[Bug 58661] Visual apps, specifically with .NET won't work correctly

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--- Comment #17 from Stian Low  ---
(In reply to Stian Low from comment #16)
> Confirming that icu.dll is indeed part of ge-proton packages which allows
> ILSpy to launch.

Missing icu.dll for vanilla may be solved soon so that ILSpy is also easily
reproducible without ge-proton:

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine-icu