[Bug 43233] New: Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

Bug ID: 43233
           Summary: Disabling strict draw ordering causes background
                    textures in FFXIV not to render properly
           Product: Wine-staging
           Version: 2.10
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

In FFXIV, there are several areas that have a sort of fog texture over some of
the lower "skybox" uninteractable area. When disabling strict draw ordering,
the game performs much faster, but these textures fail to render, or flicker,
or flicker in a grid. However, enabling strict draw ordering is a pretty big
performance hit (about 15-20 fps hit in most situations)

Attached are pictures of two areas both with strict draw ordering and without.
It was difficult to catch it at a moment where all the splotches of background
were there, but the difference should still be clear

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #1 from Sean Pryor  ---
Created attachment 58537
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=58537
without strict draw ordering

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #2 from Sean Pryor  ---
Created attachment 58538
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=58538
with strict draw ordering

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #3 from Sean Pryor  ---
Created attachment 58539
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=58539
without strict draw ordering (2)

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #4 from Sean Pryor  ---
Created attachment 58540
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=58540
with strict draw ordering (2)

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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--- Comment #5 from Sean Pryor  ---
Probably could have shown the ones from Sea of Clouds during the day, hope that
all uploaded well

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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Sean Pryor  changed:

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[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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--- Comment #6 from Sebastian Lackner  ---
Does it work with CSMT enabled (and strict draw ordering disabled)? If yes then
it is a duplicate of bug 27534.

When you are using Wine-Staging, you can switch CSMT on/off in the winecfg
Staging tab (otherwise, you can manually set the registry key or use winetricks
to do that).

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #7 from Sean Pryor  ---
Oh, all of this was performed with CSMT enabled. The game really isn't playable
without it due to numerous graphical glitches. I tested just now and yes this
issue does occur without CSMT as well.

With CSMT and strict draw order the fog textures and other things work
properly, but the performance suffers. With CSMT and without strict draw
ordering the performance is better, but there are graphical glitches with the
fog and other background textures like that

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43233

--- Comment #8 from Sebastian Lackner  ---
Could you please check if this issue is also present in the development version
of Wine? Most of CSMT is already included in the dev branch, and it would be
interesting if the problem can be reproduced there (please note that it has to
be enabled manually by setting a registry key and there is no winecfg checkbox,
see https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28729).

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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Michael Müller  changed:

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     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEEDINFO

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Matteo Bruni  changed:

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          Component|-unknown                    |directx-d3d
            Product|Wine-staging                |Wine

--- Comment #9 from Matteo Bruni  ---
CSMT is now enabled by default and the StrictDrawOrdering options was dropped
altogether. Any hope to see this bug retested?

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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--- Comment #10 from Sean Pryor  ---
Yep, still present (though it works flawlessly in dxvk)

[Bug 43233] Disabling strict draw ordering causes background textures in FFXIV not to render properly

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--- Comment #11 from Henri Verbeet  ---
Is that with the d3d11 renderer?

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Ken Sharp  changed:

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Sean Pryor  changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |ABANDONED

--- Comment #12 from Sean Pryor  ---
Seeing the ping on this, given that DXVK is now the standard, and it works
perfectly fine on there, can close this imo