On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Paul Vriens paul.vriens.wine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Due to the fact that we have several ordinary users trying out winetest I think it makes sense to put up this message.
The message will not be shown in quiet mode and not in expert mode (new one '-x').
Changelog Put up a warning message before running
No this is a bad idea, mostly because winetest is not particularly intended to be run by 'ordinary users', and anyone that does run winetest should be well aware of the supposed 'dangers' of running it. On top of this, running winetest should not be dangerous in the first place, and more effort should be put into fixing tests that crash the tests or the system.
James Hawkins wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Paul Vriens paul.vriens.wine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Due to the fact that we have several ordinary users trying out winetest I think it makes sense to put up this message.
The message will not be shown in quiet mode and not in expert mode (new one '-x').
Changelog Put up a warning message before running
No this is a bad idea, mostly because winetest is not particularly intended to be run by 'ordinary users', and anyone that does run winetest should be well aware of the supposed 'dangers' of running it. On top of this, running winetest should not be dangerous in the first place, and more effort should be put into fixing tests that crash the tests or the system.
The problem is that the 'go and run winetest to help the Wine guys' message is broadcasted all over the place. Most of those people don't have a clue about the impact.
I totally agree that we should make winetest as robust as possible. But please have a look at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13608 and tell me if you agree this bug is closed.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Vriens paul.vriens.wine@gmail.com wrote:
James Hawkins wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Paul Vriens paul.vriens.wine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Due to the fact that we have several ordinary users trying out winetest I think it makes sense to put up this message.
The message will not be shown in quiet mode and not in expert mode (new one '-x').
Changelog Put up a warning message before running
No this is a bad idea, mostly because winetest is not particularly intended to be run by 'ordinary users', and anyone that does run winetest should be well aware of the supposed 'dangers' of running it. On top of this, running winetest should not be dangerous in the first place, and more effort should be put into fixing tests that crash the tests or the system.
The problem is that the 'go and run winetest to help the Wine guys' message is broadcasted all over the place. Most of those people don't have a clue about the impact.
I totally agree that we should make winetest as robust as possible. But please have a look at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13608 and tell me if you agree this bug is closed.
It's hard to say. If it's a real machine run, and not run inside a vm, then it should probably be reopened. To me that means one of the tests is too strict, doing something no games do, but then again I'm really not familiar with that aspect of the project.
"Paul Vriens" paul.vriens.wine@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree that we should make winetest as robust as possible. But please have a look at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13608 and tell me if you agree this bug is closed.
We tell to Linux users with kernel bugs to go and file a bug report with their distro, and all the bugs of that kind are closed as invalid. I don't see why we should behave differently in the case of Windows kernel bugs. Obviously, debugging Linux or Windows kernel bugs is out of scope of the Wine project.
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